Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of famous people with attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder
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This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was Delete --Allen3 talk 00:48, August 8, 2005 (UTC)
Utterly Speculative, un-maintable list with very poor / unverifiable sources - basically original research / wanton guesswork Petesmiles 09:52, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - to be realistic,this list would have to include only admitted and diagnosed cases. Everything else, including references to historical people, are pure rumormongering, speculation and nonsense - Skysmith 11:25, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Unencyclopaedic. ADHD is a new diagnosis and it's complete speculation to go back through history purporting to diagnose notable sufferers - though I understand why campaigning and advocacy groups would want to do this. David | Talk 11:27, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep and clean-up I agree with 'no original speculation' - but there could be a list of admitted case here - followed by a list clearly marked as 'cases suggested by notable advocacy groups' (with references included) - that wouldn't be original research or speculation - but a record of the opinions of and research of others --Doc (?) 14:44, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- And maybe a title change -- how does List of famous people purported to have ADHD sound? =) -- Antaeus Feldspar 03:33, 2 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Unverifiable and pov. Osomec 17:58, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, hard to verify, thus impossible to maintain. Such list would also give pretty low value to the reader. Pavel Vozenilek 21:13, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per David. Courtkittie 21:55, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Original research/speculation. --Carnildo 23:17, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Although every entry has a citation, unfortunately the trail immediately grows cold as the citations are all to web pages that simply list names without giving any evidence whatsoever that the people named have ADD. It's just not good enough to cite what is itself an unsourced list. List_of_people_believed_to_have_been_affected_by_bipolar_disorder is a somewhat similar list but for the most part the citations there are to verifiable news stories, or biographies, or books written by by mental health professionals. Dpbsmith (talk) 23:31, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: Problems with verification, maintaining, and list could be considered libelous. Peter Grey 17:31, 3 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Abstain, but with commentary. I feel that a good list article could be written about famous people who have been thought to/alleged to/purported to have ADD/ADHD; it would need to exercise at least some selectivity, so that we don't include every single person ever nominated by any source, but with that as a ground rule, I believe that a good list article could exist, contrary to what other votes have said. We don't have to verify that the person had ADD/ADHD, we just have to verify that there is a prominent body of opinion that the person had it. The reason I am abstaining, however, is that I don't want to pass judgement on whether this article reaches that standard. -- Antaeus Feldspar 01:34, 4 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. per Peter Grey. Kaibabsquirrel 09:44, 4 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Utter speculation. But if anyone wants to improve it per Antaeus / Doc Glasgow's suggestions, I'd reconsider. - PhilipR 15:30, 6 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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